Greetings, I am, hmm, just a random number, member 24 of the gang of 33.
You talk about how we were the voice for that made decisions for the adopted yet it seems that you have become our voice so what does that make you? I am not sure how you can generalize what people were thinking when they voted or in some cases didn't vote. I have never talked or have shared my thoughts with you so I am not sure how you can isolate me in a group and verbally lash out at me. Wait a second, you did tell me that the upper left button was coffee and sugar. So unless you can read minds, in that case you are in the business, you should also quit generalizing.
When a group does not allow all members to vote(by electronic means hey this is the 21st century-or did you vote willy nilly with the signals) this is what happens. I have studied the voices of both Korean and International writers far more brilliant than I, that address the woes of adoption. I lash out at the collective ideas that THEY generalize because their logic is flawed, it assumes that Allness the Everyness of their speech is wrong.
As for Ms. Holt, you got your numbers totally wrong, there were only 11 people that voted her back in. There were 49 voters there (which is still up for debate) so that means a gang of 38 (give or take a few) (WRONG, he is counting GUESTS.) voted her out. Me personally I didn't vote for or against because I don't know anything about her, or about anybody else except Pastor Kim which I voted for.
WTF, you don't know anything about Molly Holt? Say What? Pleeeease, are you for real? As you say, Numbers were up for debate, nothing was organized again, lists of members were incomplete, non members (Yeah, who knew, a few of them just signed up as members that day), votes were taken with raised hands and some "guests" were raising their hands until they were asked to step to the side.
The staff had no idea if "newly signed up members" they were even Adoptees there was no passport check. One guy I spoke to remained quiet, Hmmm, I have never met an Adoptee from anywhere who could not speak English.
It was a complete fuck up prior, during, and after. Where are you Nicole Sheppard when we need you? (Nicole was there, but had nothing to do with organizing the event, she always ran a well organized tight ship, but I digress.
He only wants to promote mothers keeping their children. He and I discussed during the showing of Resilience how I think I have uncovered figures that show the number of Civil adoptions. As long as Korea has CIVIL adoptions by the way, it CANNOT sign the Hague Convention on Adoption.
For everybody else, the meeting was ugly. I am not going to lie. There is a lack of leadership, which became evident, but I think Don paints it in a somewhat extreme way.
In January, 2010, we discussed the ASK dinner meeting of 23 Jan. near KoRoot and JAN WENGER told me that he had announced that he was getting out to the GOA’L staff the week prior. That made sense because the staff did not look like they were surprised. But how much of this do you know about?Apparently NONE.
I love how passionate you are , but the 180 you just made is a little dis concerning. You claim to be part of the Jar Head clan yet it seems you have given up when the organization might need you the most. Were you a Sierra Tango or a Blue Falcon? Because that is how you are coming off.
Jan Wenger, Do you know who I am talking about? I once believed he WAS NEUTRAL, HE is the one to flip 180, I believe he is showing his true colors.This ignorant bastard who doesn't know jack about Molly Holt, now calls me names? A soldier even does not speak to a Marine like you do, ASSHOLE. You say to me, "you claim to be part of the Jar Head clan". Hey, I got great respect for the other services but folks, THIS is an Army soldier #24 Shit Talking to ME?
Where the fucking hell are you at meetings for UNWED MOTHERS, JackASS? Are you too busy? I don't think I have ever seen you before. Love to meet with weapon of your choice, knives, clubs, boken, staff, you name it I will beat your fucking ass. Fighting with words and knowledge is impossible for you are unarmed. Young punk ass, piece of shit. Bring it on, name a place, I will teach you a lesson, then send you back to Chile where you must have been adopted.
Please keep reading because the details are coming. I HAVE NOT GIVEN UP Rather I am fighting to overturn the election for wrongly using European Rules of Order, when
Do you see, I am fighting to prevent the faction that I DO know many of them fairly well, sorry I remember you but we never have sat down and compared knowledge or opinions.
HEY, I’ll buy you dinner at 3 Alley Pub, Itaewon on some Tuesday night for Ribs or wings. ON ME. Soldier who can't seem to make the time to be involved to do anything. just talk your shit. Most of the male adoptees come here and run a round making babies, drinking soju. I don't recall ever seeing you before, you sure could not read the Korean coffee machine.
Because perhaps as you DO read more and between the “Rush Limbaugh” stuff you will see more interesting facts.
I WILL NOT LET THIS ORGANIZATION BE FUCKED OVER. Why do you think I am at War? With non involved punks like you.
Apparently you don’t know that it was NOT INTENDED for anyone to win? Please read the later posts you will see why. Weren’t you briefed about this? Or did you just follow along, soldier, without asking? Another thing Cunt, you don't know me, do you. I could run that office much better than it has been. For one thing I would be kicking some butts to get things DONE, get order.
Julie Jong KOCH (Facebook 'friend' her and ask her how in 3 MONTHS she has the audacity to insult us to apply for the Secretary General). GET OUT OF SEOUL, JULIE. She did the job she was supposed to do, be a “straw person candidate” I do not fault her as much as the “leaders”.
I, the passionate dumb fucker who believed in Daewon’s desire for neutrality, intended to pull out and run for a BoD. AS Daewon tried to get me to do. He even told me “you would have to stop blogging, too sensitive if you won SG.”
So I applied for both. DiD you see my name on nominations for BOD? NO!! What happened, ask Jan-Daewon. I know that I could manage the organization better than the two ladies. I know more about Korea and adoption that YOU and 90% of the people in that room last Saturday, in my pinky finger.
People told me that you were a good guy and I needed to meet you. And I was excited to do so until I started reading your blog for the first time. But I will have to assume that you really don't care.
To all the other adoptee's we are just letting ourselves down. If there is a leader among us, you care about the future, then you need to step up. It is too easy to point the finger at others.
I would also like a name for our gang. Maybe you can come up with a couple names and we can vote on it. We also need a gang sign.
At least you are keepin' it real, well at least from your perspective.
I will NOT change anything I have written as far as profanity is concerned, only excuse is that I went TOO Far into the Darkness of my Soul, AGAIN. But the GRACE of GOD, his unmerited unearned Mercy has been extended to me, AGAIN. "Though he slay me, I will trust in Him."
From Group of 33, #24 wrote:
First I would like to apologize about the Jar Head clan comment. I would actually like to thank you for your service to the United States, it is people like you that make it possible for people like me to also have the opportunity to serve our great nation. I do write this with all sincerity. I do not want to start a verbal war with you, I do not consider you an enemy.
Like I mentioned this was the first time that I have ever read your blog, and I guess I was kind of surprised. I could definitely see your distaste for the events that unfolded last Saturday. I am a Korean Adoptee, and I just happened to be in town because I met my birth mother for the first time.
I accept your apology, and will honor my pledge to keep your identity discrete. We all would love to hear more of your journey and re-union with your Natural/birth mother. Some of us have still hope to make contact. My cell is 010-4224-0773 and you have my email address.
Hey, I would love to introduce you and your mother, extended family to the Korean Unwed Mothers Support Network for THEY could help you when you return to live here even with translation and of course with the emotional issues that SHE has gone through.
They are mothers who despite the rejection of their own families, Korean Society, and still lack of government financial help, have KEPT their babies. You see they of all women in Korea can empathize with YOUR Natural Mother who was probably faced with the same situation BUT 20 or more years BEFORE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS, Dong Saeng? Little Brother?
Korean society has changed but slowly, and even in the late 80's and 90's when perhaps you were born. Sorry, don't remember how old you are but the situation was even worse.
Oh, and do get back to me on your employment plans, I can give you some advice on the possibilities. Also you should apply for an F-4 visa before coming back from (
Anyways there is a lot that I don't know about adoption and the people and organizations behind it. Sorry about not knowing who Molly Holt was (it seems like it might have the same severity if I told you I didn't know who the president was) but I guess I would appreciate it more if you educated me instead of verbally assault my ignorance on the subject. People were surprise when I said I didn't know who you were as well.
All is forgiven, as long as The Korean War Baby has exclusive first rights to your story in my blog. You may continue to educate yourself by reading and backlinking my facts, never trust anyone, but factcheck and seek out all sides.
Dong Saeng, look at this small tidbit of facts from Korean Women's Development Institute-2010, Feb. report. from my blog.